1. Neocom 4.0 is working much slower than the older version 2. New font is too big, less information in the screen 3. Very active separation lines. The readability overall is worse than in the old version
Is it possible to come back to the last version. Because i don't like to use the new design of the app. The last one was better. But very good new features.
Your previous design was easier to read, it may be the font is a bit bold. Anyway, it’s a great app. You have done a very good job, I’m amazed at how accurate your numbers are when I’m fitting a ship and how it takes my current skills into account. 1. Could I ask if you could tone the font down a bit 2. Could you put the market sell orders and buy orders buttons to the top of the search bar, instead of tapping the summary every time. Like your previous version please. I’ll happily pay more for this full featured app!
Thank you for the update, I have not been able to create or edit fits while offline, I greatly miss this functionality. Also, the fitting engine appears to be much slower than it used to be.
1. The previous used function does not collapse completely but remains on the right (from a usability perspective this is bad, and also looks bad). 2. The attributes don't fit at the bottom of the character sheet (bug). 3. zKillboard is slow to load, please let us SAVE specific players/corps/alliances for quick access. 4. Black background is too harsh, please use the same grey color you use around the search bar in the rest of the app. 5. The mail is difficult to navigate with everything on one page, look at how Apple mail works - use a category for each mailbox instead of forcing the user to collapse inbox to see the other items at the bottom. This is really bad from a usability perspective.
1. Have the app display a red balloon notification on the icon upon receiving new mail, would be cool if you could have it check for new mail automatically while checking the API in the background (just like push mail).
2. Add notifications to mail, they are very important.
Do you consider pushing your current sources to github again? Others could take the opportunity to fiddle around with the visuals as they are the big showstopper atm for this otherwise best EVE App around.
Hey there, I hope those 25 bucks boosted your confidence a bit. I love your effort and work, but there are some things that could use some cleaning up.I love the new features and additions, But here's some places to improve, 1: the fitting screen is way too zoomed in, I can't really see more than 4 moduals at a time, (maybe make modual slots scroll horizontally and have fitting info under?)
2: I love that I can see the ship mastery levels, but maybe you could make skill levels that you click, show what that skill lets you use?
3: it's much laggier than the previous version, I hope you don't need to recode it again to fix that.
4: I'm not really feeling the black color, I liked to old color better, (maybe make the fitting screen show a parallax image of the ship your fitting?) it makes it feel too empty.
5: font is too saturated and big, makes it hard for your eyes to read on the black background
6: I freaking love this app, and I hope you don't take this as negativity, just helpful criticism, hopefully you can make this app awesome! The fitting tool is by far the best thing about this app, if you can perfect it, you'll have the most popular eve app on the market. I have so many ideas for this app that I can't put into words right now, if you want more suggestions, reply to me when you can and I'll be happy to chat you up on Skype or something. o7 and have a great day!
Артем, ты че издеваешься?))) верни старый дизайн, ты че? Фичи оставь, а UI верни старый иначе все попоболики евы тебя проклянут за этот новый интерфейс...честно, все было ж класно, верни как было.
Hello, Artem, a long time user of your app here. I'm afraid I'll have to criticize your 4.0 edition too. Here's a short, but incomplete list of complains:
User Experience is worse than before. Readability has dropped, fittings are unavailable offline, the app feels slower. Loading items too fast crashes the app, as does opening the database on ipad 2 while offline. I've had it continually hang up on me, to the point I stopped using it on ipad completely.
In fact, the experience turned out so bad that I'm seriously thinking to code a new replacement app myself. Sorry, but I honestly feel that the old version was (vastly) superior.
Completely agree, and more. If I can't go back to version 3 I am giving this app up and sticking with desktop or web utilities.
I actually still have version 2 available to install and it is a beautiful thing. The only solution is: full user data exports, and skins. You can make money selling the version 2 skin!!! :)
I cannot adjust to the new layout and feel a lot of the spirit of the program was lost with the latest update. I don't know if this is a version with pending interface updates or if it's intentionally using the flat design fad spreading around the Internet, but please consider bringing some of the last version's aesthetics back (less harsh background, readable fonts.) I do appreciate the information density being kept though, thank you for that.
Please take this as constructive criticism as I have been using and loving your app for many years.
A few things that bother most are the lines that are ubiquitous throught the app, the become very ditracting. The high contrast is also strenuous on the eyes. While you've increased the size of the text it now wraps awkwardly in some places. Those are my main gripes with the visual UI elements. Functionally the app has, mort the most part, been solid. I'm glad you also reworked the caching, while not broken, it was sometimes a minor annoyance.
Thanks for your hard work making the best EVE app!
Nice with an update to adjust the changes made in 1.3. However I also have complaints, many are the same as the previous.
1: The font is too large for comfort unless you're on an iPad (I guess) 2: Fitting tool has become extremely slow, delays between menus. No longer feels smooth to use. 3: The app is nearly useless if you don't have internet connection and if you don't log out before hand. If you don't have internet connection (iPod Touch/iPad), the app completely bugs out. You can't open/edit fits as the screen just locks while trying to load the fit/database. You can't log out because the screen locks, trying to get API information. This needs serious fixing. 4: Please sort the mailbox into Inbox/Corp/Alliance 5: I'm not too fond of the slide menu, it doesn't really fit the app. But it's something I can live with. 6: Collapsible bars are really hard to hit if they are at the top, and often you go back to the menu or to the top when you try to collapse. 7: The black background doesn't really fit. The grey was better 8: Some of the ME values seems off, unless an Abaddon BP can reach 2.5mil ME. 9: Make adding drones "smarter", so that it wont add above the maximum drone bay capacity (ex adding 5 drones to a ship with 10m3 drone bay) 10: It has a thing of showing "No Result" while loading, or if there are only a few options. 11: When making a fit, please let the PG/CPU amount stick to the top again. It did this in v2, gone in v3, still gone in v4. I would love it to come back (maybe as an option?) 12: Please, for the love of EVE, put the Export Fits to Browser in the app again!!
But enough with the complaints/feedback, there are things that I love in the app too. The addition of masteries in the ship info and training times is a really nice touch Optimizing attributes, means I can stick to the NeoCom instead of constantly going back to EVEMon Quick market data, such as PLEX/Mineral Prices. Always nice to have The new skills window and skill queue is really nice. Keep that one. The expanded character sheet is really nice, GJ
I hope this feedback is of use, and I hope I don't seem to be mad/angry at what you've updated the app into.
Thank you for an amazing app, I can’t tell you how much I use this thing!! A few suggestions for future versions… 1.Show Jump Clone and Remap time remaining on Character Sheet 2.Eve Time/Local Time conversion tool 3.Add Pods to fitting section (include pods from API) 4.On ship fits, make the above pod fits selectable 5.On Fitting statistics character selection, add option to include skills from a saved skill plan 6.Add Eve Notifications (probably disabled by default, with ability to turn each type on and off, to avoid nuisance notifications) 7.Add “Applied Damage” vs. another saved fit to Stats screen, including speed, size, orbital range and such
Just to be different, I'm here to tell you the app looks and works great, mostly, on the iPad. The only niggle I have with the new version is that the font for news previews is too SMALL. On the iPad, I'm having a lot of trouble reading them to decide whether to open them in the browser. Other than that, great job as usual!
You are awsome, I love this app I don't think I can't handle all my accounts without it. Thank you for your great job. Btw: now with smaller font size it's better to read and handle in fitting tool
Long Time NEOCOM user, also happily paying customer. However, I had to reset my phone, and therefore re-add my characters to the newly updated NEOCOM. Unfortunately ion pressing the "plus" sign to add characters, the application crashes. User selected workarounds (like turing the icloud storage option off) do not work as well. Any timetable for a fix?
This character addition problem has been persistent for weeks and the developer has yet to do anything about it. He hasn't even commented in his own support thread about these problems. Honestly hate my iPhone because I had to switch from aura on android to this crap app. Please pay attention to your product and fix whats wrong.
sometimes when i start the app it wont load anything and then the app crashes, Please fix this. And when the app works its very slow in the fitting tool. But i still love the app, keep up the good work and good hunting on the bugs.
I loved your previous version and was ready to donate. But your latest release took away the most useful tool: The Neocom Market no longer allows me to check prices in regions I specify. Why was this feature removed? Now all I see is a summary of the top buy and sell orders in the entire universe, which is virtually useless. Thanks for a great product. Please each new release should add or improve not remove.
Awesome app... I use it everyday. With the Kronos changes to my beloved Rattlesnake, I'm wondering if/when a Kronos update will be available. Any news on that? Cheers.
hmmm no update yet, and update after Kronos getting ready to drop. The higher frequency update schedule might become a problem for smaller app developers.
Hey Neocom is about the most useful eve tool ever. I LOVE the fitting tool. I use it all the time. Few questions. Are you making enough money off this thing for it to me worth all the work? Yes I donated to it because its quite worth 1$ I just want to make sure there is continued support. Also are there plans for a PC desktop version? I like it way better than anything available for the desktop right now.
i had a lot of problems with the app when i was running on a older IOS version when i updated the IOS to 7.1.1 al my problems where solved. Maby somebody can use this info
Is there a eta on the update? Probely going to be hard keeping up with all the new updates planed. Just good to know when we can expect it. :) keep up the good work.
Just wanna say, that I love this app. It has taken sometime to get used to the changes. 1. Delays on updates. Don't know if this is a time issue or an Apple issues. 2. Desktop version. I don't know if the dev would wanna join up with others to help develop desktop versions. The new coding language Apple has sounds like it works both desktop and mobile. 3. Communication. Another app I have, the developer keeps users up to date via Facebook group when he has made changes and submitted to apple. Just a thought. I will have a donation in the mail if/when I can find a job that pays enought to afford more than bread crumbs from a dumpster. :)
I love the database for items but I would love if, when you are looking at a specific skill, I could see other skills that that skill is a requirement for and maybe items as well.
Now that CCP has committed to frequent updates, would it be possible for the database export to be an in-app download instead of being included with the app? That would allow users to get the latest and greatest information without having to wait for a new version of the app.
On my iPad 3 ios 7.1.2 the condensed character sheet on the left only shows Max integer value 2147483647 ISK. My wallet is bigger and shows just fine on iPhone 5s with same ios
My character sheet doesn't updater any more. The ISK amount is not right and the skill queue is stuck with with a skill im long (2-3 days or so) done with.
Artem thank you for the update!
ReplyDeleteNeed to mention some issues (iphone 4s 64):
1. Neocom 4.0 is working much slower than the older version
2. New font is too big, less information in the screen
3. Very active separation lines. The readability overall is worse than in the old version
Is it possible to come back to the last version. Because i don't like to use the new design of the app. The last one was better. But very good new features.
ReplyDeleteYour previous design was easier to read, it may be the font is a bit bold. Anyway, it’s a great app. You have done a very good job, I’m amazed at how accurate your numbers are when I’m fitting a ship and how it takes my current skills into account.
ReplyDelete1. Could I ask if you could tone the font down a bit
2. Could you put the market sell orders and buy orders buttons to the top of the search bar, instead of tapping the summary every time. Like your previous version please.
I’ll happily pay more for this full featured app!
Nice Thanks!
ReplyDeleteAnd thank you for leaving the old style certificates in there. I still like those...
Shali
Thank you for the update, I have not been able to create or edit fits while offline, I greatly miss this functionality. Also, the fitting engine appears to be much slower than it used to be.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the update, I appreciate the effort.
Observations:
ReplyDelete1. The previous used function does not collapse completely but remains on the right (from a usability perspective this is bad, and also looks bad).
2. The attributes don't fit at the bottom of the character sheet (bug).
3. zKillboard is slow to load, please let us SAVE specific players/corps/alliances for quick access.
4. Black background is too harsh, please use the same grey color you use around the search bar in the rest of the app.
5. The mail is difficult to navigate with everything on one page, look at how Apple mail works - use a category for each mailbox instead of forcing the user to collapse inbox to see the other items at the bottom. This is really bad from a usability perspective.
Keep up the good work, you're almost there :)
Item 3. I use the IOS Shortcut feature for corp/alliance names, works great for commonly entered searches
DeleteI know Artem is working on a new release to resolve some of the issuses raised.
Two more requests:
ReplyDelete1. Have the app display a red balloon notification on the icon upon receiving new mail, would be cool if you could have it check for new mail automatically while checking the API in the background (just like push mail).
2. Add notifications to mail, they are very important.
So slow and bad, this app was so great and now it's getting worse with every update.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how it's possible to go from the best visually designed Eve iPhone app to literally the worst, but you've done it.
ReplyDeleteDo you consider pushing your current sources to github again? Others could take the opportunity to fiddle around with the visuals as they are the big showstopper atm for this otherwise best EVE App around.
ReplyDeleteHey there, I hope those 25 bucks boosted your confidence a bit.
ReplyDeleteI love your effort and work, but there are some things that could use some cleaning up.I love the new features and additions, But here's some places to improve,
1: the fitting screen is way too zoomed in, I can't really see more than 4 moduals at a time, (maybe make modual slots scroll horizontally and have fitting info under?)
2: I love that I can see the ship mastery levels, but maybe you could make skill levels that you click, show what that skill lets you use?
3: it's much laggier than the previous version, I hope you don't need to recode it again to fix that.
4: I'm not really feeling the black color, I liked to old color better, (maybe make the fitting screen show a parallax image of the ship your fitting?) it makes it feel too empty.
5: font is too saturated and big, makes it hard for your eyes to read on the black background
6: I freaking love this app, and I hope you don't take this as negativity, just helpful criticism, hopefully you can make this app awesome! The fitting tool is by far the best thing about this app, if you can perfect it, you'll have the most popular eve app on the market.
I have so many ideas for this app that I can't put into words right now, if you want more suggestions, reply to me when you can and I'll be happy to chat you up on Skype or something. o7 and have a great day!
Артем, ты че издеваешься?))) верни старый дизайн, ты че? Фичи оставь, а UI верни старый иначе все попоболики евы тебя проклянут за этот новый интерфейс...честно, все было ж класно, верни как было.
ReplyDeleteHello, Artem, a long time user of your app here. I'm afraid I'll have to criticize your 4.0 edition too. Here's a short, but incomplete list of complains:
ReplyDeleteUser Experience is worse than before. Readability has dropped, fittings are unavailable offline, the app feels slower. Loading items too fast crashes the app, as does opening the database on ipad 2 while offline. I've had it continually hang up on me, to the point I stopped using it on ipad completely.
In fact, the experience turned out so bad that I'm seriously thinking to code a new replacement app myself. Sorry, but I honestly feel that the old version was (vastly) superior.
Completely agree, and more. If I can't go back to version 3 I am giving this app up and sticking with desktop or web utilities.
DeleteI actually still have version 2 available to install and it is a beautiful thing. The only solution is: full user data exports, and skins. You can make money selling the version 2 skin!!! :)
Артем, прислушайся к мненинию людей подалуйста.
ReplyDeleteI cannot adjust to the new layout and feel a lot of the spirit of the program was lost with the latest update. I don't know if this is a version with pending interface updates or if it's intentionally using the flat design fad spreading around the Internet, but please consider bringing some of the last version's aesthetics back (less harsh background, readable fonts.) I do appreciate the information density being kept though, thank you for that.
ReplyDeletePlease take this as constructive criticism as I have been using and loving your app for many years.
ReplyDeleteA few things that bother most are the lines that are ubiquitous throught the app, the become very ditracting. The high contrast is also strenuous on the eyes. While you've increased the size of the text it now wraps awkwardly in some places.
Those are my main gripes with the visual UI elements. Functionally the app has, mort the most part, been solid. I'm glad you also reworked the caching, while not broken, it was sometimes a minor annoyance.
Thanks for your hard work making the best EVE app!
Nice with an update to adjust the changes made in 1.3.
ReplyDeleteHowever I also have complaints, many are the same as the previous.
1: The font is too large for comfort unless you're on an iPad (I guess)
2: Fitting tool has become extremely slow, delays between menus. No longer feels smooth to use.
3: The app is nearly useless if you don't have internet connection and if you don't log out before hand. If you don't have internet connection (iPod Touch/iPad), the app completely bugs out. You can't open/edit fits as the screen just locks while trying to load the fit/database. You can't log out because the screen locks, trying to get API information. This needs serious fixing.
4: Please sort the mailbox into Inbox/Corp/Alliance
5: I'm not too fond of the slide menu, it doesn't really fit the app. But it's something I can live with.
6: Collapsible bars are really hard to hit if they are at the top, and often you go back to the menu or to the top when you try to collapse.
7: The black background doesn't really fit. The grey was better
8: Some of the ME values seems off, unless an Abaddon BP can reach 2.5mil ME.
9: Make adding drones "smarter", so that it wont add above the maximum drone bay capacity (ex adding 5 drones to a ship with 10m3 drone bay)
10: It has a thing of showing "No Result" while loading, or if there are only a few options.
11: When making a fit, please let the PG/CPU amount stick to the top again. It did this in v2, gone in v3, still gone in v4. I would love it to come back (maybe as an option?)
12: Please, for the love of EVE, put the Export Fits to Browser in the app again!!
But enough with the complaints/feedback, there are things that I love in the app too.
The addition of masteries in the ship info and training times is a really nice touch
Optimizing attributes, means I can stick to the NeoCom instead of constantly going back to EVEMon
Quick market data, such as PLEX/Mineral Prices. Always nice to have
The new skills window and skill queue is really nice. Keep that one.
The expanded character sheet is really nice, GJ
I hope this feedback is of use, and I hope I don't seem to be mad/angry at what you've updated the app into.
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ReplyDeleteThank you for an amazing app, I can’t tell you how much I use this thing!! A few suggestions for future versions…
ReplyDelete1.Show Jump Clone and Remap time remaining on Character Sheet
2.Eve Time/Local Time conversion tool
3.Add Pods to fitting section (include pods from API)
4.On ship fits, make the above pod fits selectable
5.On Fitting statistics character selection, add option to include skills from a saved skill plan
6.Add Eve Notifications (probably disabled by default, with ability to turn each type on and off, to avoid nuisance notifications)
7.Add “Applied Damage” vs. another saved fit to Stats screen, including speed, size, orbital range and such
Just to be different, I'm here to tell you the app looks and works great, mostly, on the iPad. The only niggle I have with the new version is that the font for news previews is too SMALL. On the iPad, I'm having a lot of trouble reading them to decide whether to open them in the browser. Other than that, great job as usual!
ReplyDeleteMassive amount of lag when using anything. Fitting tool barely works if there's no net. Crashes every 5 minutes or so.
ReplyDeleteHmm.. I just got it for free from the AppStore ... So I do not know why you say it's for sale?
ReplyDeleteNooooo! Font in the fitting section is still too big :( I was hoping this will be fixed in the new update.
ReplyDeleteYou are awsome, I love this app I don't think I can't handle all my accounts without it. Thank you for your great job.
ReplyDeleteBtw: now with smaller font size it's better to read and handle in fitting tool
Thanks a lot for 4.1!!! MUCH better visuals, and the iCloud sync across multiple devices is also a GREAT addition!
ReplyDeleteDid not like the new UI when it came out. It looks MUCH better now, great job! Keep up the good work!
ReplyDeletewhy don't you ever reply to support questions? if you get overwhelmed then why not write a manual covering the basics?
ReplyDeleteWhen i update this app, all my account data were gone.
ReplyDeleteand i cant add new account.
When i touch "+" neocom crash.
What should i do?
Same here
DeleteAfter enabling iCloud sync iOS requires few minutes to transfer your data to cloud. After transferring your accounts will return.
ReplyDeleteit didnt working
Deletei waited one hour with neocom on.
I can't add account data - the app keeps crashing when I touch + sign in the account tab.
ReplyDeletei have the same problem.
Deletewhat should i do?
App crashes when trying to add account.
ReplyDeleteI'm getting the same problem. My accounts vanished, never came back, and now I can't add any. If I try, the app crashes.
ReplyDeletePlease get it fixed. This is a great app and I've donated in the past because I use it so much.
When you first open the app, scroll down to settings and turn off the "use iCloud Storage switch. After I did that, my characters loaded correctly.
ReplyDeleteI did that.
DeleteBut problem didnt solved
add account results in crash.
ReplyDeleteplease fix it
Is there any workaround for this "Add character" crash issue or just have to wait for a fix? Have iPhone5s and latest OS updates installed.
ReplyDeleteLong Time NEOCOM user, also happily paying customer. However, I had to reset my phone, and therefore re-add my characters to the newly updated NEOCOM. Unfortunately ion pressing the "plus" sign to add characters, the application crashes. User selected workarounds (like turing the icloud storage option off) do not work as well. Any timetable for a fix?
ReplyDeleteFitting screen and character screen both hang and crash the system
ReplyDeleteSame problem...had to reset my characters and no joy, app crashes when i hit the plus sign.
ReplyDeleteSame crash with the add character plus.
ReplyDeleteI have a crash log and console dump if you want them. Email me at flying a mortgage at gmail dot com (no spaces obviously)
This character addition problem has been persistent for weeks and the developer has yet to do anything about it. He hasn't even commented in his own support thread about these problems. Honestly hate my iPhone because I had to switch from aura on android to this crap app. Please pay attention to your product and fix whats wrong.
ReplyDeleteJust chipping in that yea, can't add any accounts to the neocom app :/
ReplyDeleteI am also getting the app crashing when I hit the + to add accounts
ReplyDeleteUpdate fixes account problem. Thanks, great work
ReplyDeletesometimes when i start the app it wont load anything and then the app crashes,
ReplyDeletePlease fix this.
And when the app works its very slow in the fitting tool.
But i still love the app, keep up the good work and good hunting on the bugs.
Thx for fixing the account problem. Bonus dollars have been donated.
ReplyDeleteI loved your previous version and was ready to donate. But your latest release took away the most useful tool: The Neocom Market no longer allows me to check prices in regions I specify. Why was this feature removed? Now all I see is a summary of the top buy and sell orders in the entire universe, which is virtually useless. Thanks for a great product. Please each new release should add or improve not remove.
ReplyDeleteAwesome app... I use it everyday.
ReplyDeleteWith the Kronos changes to my beloved Rattlesnake, I'm wondering if/when a Kronos update will be available. Any news on that? Cheers.
Usually takes 1-2 weeks before he's able to update the app and have the update pushed out by apple.
DeleteCcol. Its gonna be a while before my eyes have fully adjusted to the black/white style anyway :) thanks.
Deletehmmm no update yet, and update after Kronos getting ready to drop. The higher frequency update schedule might become a problem for smaller app developers.
DeleteHey Neocom is about the most useful eve tool ever. I LOVE the fitting tool. I use it all the time. Few questions. Are you making enough money off this thing for it to me worth all the work? Yes I donated to it because its quite worth 1$ I just want to make sure there is continued support. Also are there plans for a PC desktop version? I like it way better than anything available for the desktop right now.
ReplyDeleteI'll second this except ask if there are any plans for an OSX version? (Since it's closer in code to iOS I figure it might be possible :D)
DeleteThe ship speeds in the fitting tool seem out to me, perhaps by factor of 10? Arbitrator going nowhere fast!
ReplyDeletei had a lot of problems with the app when i was running on a older IOS version when i updated the IOS to 7.1.1 al my problems where solved.
ReplyDeleteMaby somebody can use this info
Love the app keep up the good work!!
Can haz Kronos update for we can fit shiny shit fit mordus legion and rebalanced ships??? Best app EVAH! Btw :D
ReplyDeleteIs there a eta on the update? Probely going to be hard keeping up with all the new updates planed. Just good to know when we can expect it. :) keep up the good work.
ReplyDeleteЗдравствуйте Артем. Будет ли Ваше замечательно приложение на Android.
ReplyDeleteWheres the update.
ReplyDeleteJust wanna say, that I love this app. It has taken sometime to get used to the changes.
ReplyDelete1. Delays on updates. Don't know if this is a time issue or an Apple issues.
2. Desktop version. I don't know if the dev would wanna join up with others to help develop desktop versions. The new coding language Apple has sounds like it works both desktop and mobile.
3. Communication. Another app I have, the developer keeps users up to date via Facebook group when he has made changes and submitted to apple. Just a thought.
I will have a donation in the mail if/when I can find a job that pays enought to afford more than bread crumbs from a dumpster.
:)
Thank you for the update.
ReplyDeleteI love the database for items but I would love if, when you are looking at a specific skill, I could see other skills that that skill is a requirement for and maybe items as well.
ReplyDeleteNow that CCP has committed to frequent updates, would it be possible for the database export to be an in-app download instead of being included with the app? That would allow users to get the latest and greatest information without having to wait for a new version of the app.
ReplyDeleteOn my iPad 3 ios 7.1.2 the condensed character sheet on the left only shows Max integer value 2147483647 ISK. My wallet is bigger and shows just fine on iPhone 5s with same ios
ReplyDeleteMy character sheet doesn't updater any more. The ISK amount is not right and the skill queue is stuck with with a skill im long (2-3 days or so) done with.
ReplyDelete